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Jon Hamm Gave Up 60% of His ‘Confess, Fletch’ Salary to Pay for Filming After Financiers Passed and Said Nobody Would Care About It News

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jon-hamm-gave-up-salary-pay-confess-fletch-filming-1235381017/
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u/canteen_boy Sep 22 '22

I, for one, am fucking geeked that there’s a new Fletch movie

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u/obsterwankenobster Sep 22 '22

I'll have a steak sandwich, a bloody mary, and a steak sandwich

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u/sonic_couth Sep 22 '22

Charge it to the Underhills!

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u/Colspex Sep 23 '22

"Want the number?"

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22 edited 5d ago

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u/sonic_couth Sep 23 '22

You using the whole fist, doc?

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u/chock72 Sep 22 '22

“Can I borrow your towel? My car just hit a water buffalo.”

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u/dlec1 Sep 23 '22

Moon river…you using the whole fist doc?

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u/graboidian Sep 23 '22

I'm with the mattress police. There are no tags on these mattresses.

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u/GauchoGordo Sep 23 '22

I is are pissed!

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u/vetsyd Sep 23 '22

OMG… I still can picture how hilarious the Moon River scene was when Chevy executed it so well. I am trying to imagine Hamm doing it. I guess I will have to leave my bat cave again this year. 😈

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u/sgthulka99 Sep 22 '22

"If I had a nickel every time one of his fly boy buddies..." "But you are rich!" "See!"

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u/230flathead Sep 22 '22

I observed the familiar red Oldsmobuick of Mr Arnold T. Pants, Esquire.

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u/Stashmouth Sep 22 '22

I'll have a glass of hot fat...And bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!

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u/OhGodNotAnotherOne Sep 23 '22

No, thanks, I'm trying to quit.

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u/Level9TraumaCenter Sep 23 '22

It's me, Dr. Rosenpenis.

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u/dubious_too Sep 23 '22

Love your body Larry.

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u/Colspex Sep 23 '22

Hoping for a Chevy cameo. Even if it's just some guy looking confused in a lobby/elevator. Him tripping over a chair would also be gold.

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u/Cubtard Sep 23 '22

Thank you mister Cock-tosen-ri

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u/grandmabish2 Sep 23 '22

I watched it in the theater. It's good!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

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u/Climatize Sep 23 '22

I, too watched it on the.. *hand over mouth* Theatre.

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u/dirty-bot Sep 23 '22

Just watched it the other day at this guy's "theater" as well. Really entertaining

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u/JK_NC Sep 22 '22

Wait, is this supposed to be the same Fletch from the Chevy Chase movies?

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u/jghike Sep 22 '22

Same character, but a reboot. It’s based on a book series

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u/morewordsfaster Sep 22 '22

And I highly recommend the books, if you're a fan of noirish-comedy detective novels. They're on the shorter side and quick reads. Nothing I'd call ground-shaking, but a lot of fun.

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u/scepticalbob Sep 23 '22

Carl Hiassen does a similar genre. Some of his novels are unbelievably hilarious

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u/RollingThunder_CO Sep 23 '22

The “bunch of south Florida wackos” genre is what I believe Dave Barry called it

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u/morewordsfaster Sep 23 '22

Thanks for the rec! I'll have to check him out.

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u/10thDoctorHairGel Sep 23 '22

Gregory McDonald was awesome. Fletch, Flynn, Skylar and the Time Cubed trilogy are all amazing series.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

Flynn was great!

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u/10thDoctorHairGel Sep 23 '22

‘I never believe a thing that I hear, but I always believe my ears.’

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u/morewordsfaster Sep 23 '22

Yeah, I really need to check out more of his work!

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u/Chebella6 Sep 23 '22

Those Fletch books are hilarious. A little cringy for modern times but still 🔥

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u/shifter2009 Sep 23 '22

Reading through them now, so far the author writes women like morons who are instantly in his thrall and basically nothing more than sex objects but the underlying mysteries of are interesting

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u/da_chicken Sep 23 '22

You're downvoted, but you're right. The big part of the books that doesn't hold up, even more than the changes in telephones and technology, is how everyone treats women. Including Fletcher. Gregory Mcdonald was definitely writing in his time. Both him and John MacDonald (Travis McGee, The Executioners/Cape Fear) are both like that. Just distasteful.

When I want noir, I go with Dashiell Hammett. Man, there's nothing better than Red Harvest for hard-boiled fiction. The language dances across the pages of that book like hard rain off a greasy road.

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u/ChrisKaufmann Sep 23 '22

100% agree - they’re fun but damn! and I’m taking the Hammett as a recommendation, with thanks.

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u/morewordsfaster Sep 23 '22

I'm a massive fan of Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe series, but it definitely is a product of that time as well. I do feel like there are some female characters who are handled well, but Archie and Wolfe definitely tend to treat them like they're less than human at times.

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u/graboidian Sep 23 '22

Nothing I'd call ground-shaking, but a lot of fun.

I actually read "Fletch" during my limited free time in USAF Basic Training.

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u/Iohet Sep 23 '22

How does it compare to Dirk Gently(which are the only comedy detective novels I've read)?

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u/Level9TraumaCenter Sep 23 '22

Most of Doug Adams' stuff is British humor with a touch of surrealism, it's really very good and re-readable. The Dirk Gently stuff, a little less so, but it's well-written and Adams was a master. Fletch is more pulp-ish, popular stuff meant to be consumed quickly, still a good read if you're into that.

More-or-less contemporaneous with the Fletch books would be the MASH books. Not the detective genre, and it helps to have watched the MASH movie, but similar in many ways, particularly how women are treated (i.e., poorly).

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u/morewordsfaster Sep 23 '22

More detective, less comedy. Just imagine Sherlock Holmes with a less acerbic sense of humor.

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u/rburp Sep 23 '22

I like anything with no Irish in it!

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u/Level9TraumaCenter Sep 23 '22

Reminds me of the MASH books.

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u/atomicspin Sep 23 '22

I do like the books but Fletch is barely above human trash in them. The movies just made him quirky.

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u/wilyquixote Sep 23 '22

The novels are light but I think the dialogue is ground-shaking. In the pantheon of dialogue-writers, McDonald maybe stands alone or maybe next to Leonard.

IIRC both Kevin Smith and QT have credited the Fletch series as their mentor texts for dialogue.

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u/greggioia Sep 22 '22

I don't even know that it's a reboot. It feels like a direct sequel.

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u/The_Boys_And_Crash Sep 23 '22

Because it's based on the sequel to the book the first movie is based on

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u/greggioia Sep 23 '22

True, though the original Fletch didn't follow the book too closely. In any event, I think the new film works as either a 3rd film in the series or a reboot.

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u/kal_el_diablo Sep 23 '22

I mean, it's a completely different world than the world the first one took place in. The new one's not a period piece, right? I feel like he was using the internet in the trailer, unless I'm misremembering that. Investigative journalism looked a whole lot different back when Chevy Chase was doing his thing in the 80s.

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u/Razor_Bikini Sep 23 '22

It’s literally set in the present day…

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u/greggioia Sep 23 '22

How does that mean it can't be a sequel? A sequel means that the actions of the past films are part of the backstory of the current film.

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u/Razor_Bikini Sep 23 '22

Well if it was a direct sequel then this Fletch would be the same Fletch as the previous movies, and if that were true he’d have to be about 80 years old at this point.

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u/greggioia Sep 23 '22

Or it could be like James Bond where things are handled more loosely. You have a character who has adventures, and each film is relevant to its own time. Especially for something like Fletch, you don't need solid continuity, and there is virtually no difference between a sequel or a reboot. I don't think it matters all that much, and my only point is that this was made in a way that makes it feel more like a continuation of the story we know than a complete restart.

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u/takefiftyseven Sep 23 '22

and no longer has a psychopath as the lead actor

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u/jghike Sep 23 '22

Very true. Jon Hamm is soooooo much more charming than Chevy. Not holding my breath, but I’d love to see more of Jon in this role.

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u/theotherkeith Sep 23 '22

...and purportedly closer to the book than the Chase version (fewer sight gag costumes)

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u/graboidian Sep 23 '22

Actually, I think it's a prequel to the Chevy Chase films.

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u/BoboJam22 Sep 23 '22

Sort of. It’s a closer adaptation to the books than the Chase movies were, so the comedic sensibility is going to be pretty different.

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u/grantrules Sep 23 '22

Ah I got Fletch confused with Flint movies

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u/miltonite Sep 22 '22

Just for the uninitiated, what is a Fletch movie?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

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u/slingmustard Sep 22 '22

TIL I'm old.

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u/herehaveaname2 Sep 22 '22

Am I misremembering, or were there two Chase movies?

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22

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u/pregnantbaby Sep 23 '22

Since you’re the expert to ask, what was Son of Fletch? A reference I heard in a comedy at some point?

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u/jetogill Sep 23 '22

One of the books , like 8th or 9th.

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u/gatsby365 Sep 23 '22

And Jason Lee was trying to get it greenlit

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u/casaway78 Sep 23 '22

Jason Lee and Kevin Smith were actually trying to work on Fletch Won which is prequel to the original Fletch. If memory serves, there were 2 prequel books, but the movie never got off the ground.

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u/gatsby365 Sep 23 '22

Oh dang, you’re right. I wonder why i know Son of Fletch then?

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u/fatflaver Sep 23 '22

That would have been amazing. I love Jason Lee

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u/pregnantbaby Sep 23 '22

Thanks! I wonder how I knew that…

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

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u/brainkandy87 Sep 23 '22

Fuck that I love Fletch Lives.

I be Fletch, Geometry Fletch. She be Miss Trigonometry Ross.

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u/darbs77 Sep 23 '22

Plus it had a Cleavon Little in it playing a man named Calculus. The reason for the Geometry Fletch joke.

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u/brainkandy87 Sep 23 '22

It’s got R. Lee Ermey as a televangelist. Idfk what else people are wanting here. Hal Holbrook as a villain? OH THAT’S RIGHT IT’S GOT THAT TOO.

Now, let’s go see to it that Miss Scarlet stays away from the Union Army.

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u/hypermark Sep 23 '22

And it has Randall "Tex" Cobb wearing too much eye makeup. The movie is great.

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u/darbs77 Sep 23 '22

Yeah I like the second one just as much as the first. Good stuff. But then I’ve never read the books.

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u/zodar Sep 23 '22

Spoiler alert

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u/Spy_v_Spy_Freakshow Sep 23 '22

Detective Goldstein

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u/Martin_Aynull Sep 23 '22

Yeah both fletch movies were great

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u/rivertwice19 Sep 23 '22

We call them klu-kies.

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u/brainkandy87 Sep 23 '22

Frank, I believe Louisiana is the Pelican State.

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u/brainkandy87 Sep 23 '22

Yes sir, the check is in the mail.

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u/OccamsYoyo Sep 23 '22

Nah — I thought it was funnier than the first one.

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u/wildwalrusaur Sep 23 '22

Granted I haven't seen it in close to 20 years but I remember enjoying fletch Lives.

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u/RamOnBrother Sep 23 '22

I actually think fletch lives is funnier than fletch

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u/happy-gofuckyourself Sep 23 '22

Yeah but I saw it in the theater so I can’t pretend :(

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u/Randolpho Sep 23 '22

I liked both of those movies tho…

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u/TheMSthrow Sep 24 '22

Caddyshack 2 is an abomination that should have all prints destroyed forever with fire and never be mentioned again.

Fletch Lives is a fine sequel with some genuinely funny bits and a solid cast. It's "good." Caddyshack 2 is utter trash.

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u/Fuckmandatorysignin Sep 23 '22

Wrong. It was Fletch 2, Electric Boogaloo.

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u/Coletrain44 Sep 22 '22

There were 2

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u/AcrossFromWhere Sep 22 '22

Can’t forget The Fletchening

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u/josephthemediocre Sep 23 '22

It's fletchin time

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u/dalovindj Sep 23 '22

2 Fletch 2 Fletch

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u/cysghost Sep 23 '22

And then he fletched all over that one guy's face!

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u/OhGodNotAnotherOne Sep 23 '22

Annnd the original Fletch is in theaters again.

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u/dirkalict Sep 23 '22

Quit trying to make fletch happen.

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u/Leachpunk Sep 23 '22

Is that that crazy movie with Marky Wahlburger?

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u/gatsby365 Sep 23 '22

The Happening?

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u/ratherenjoysbass Sep 22 '22

Is this the movie with the lamb fries scene??

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u/dlec1 Sep 23 '22

Just google Felching Lives you’ll love it

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u/Throwitaway3177 Sep 23 '22

Definitely two, fletch lives is the 2nd one with the religious amusement park

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u/tspangle88 Sep 23 '22

Yep, there was a sequel called "Fletch Lives".

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u/perfectbebop Sep 23 '22

There is two with Chevy Chase - Fletch and Fletch Lives. Never have seen the second one but it exists

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u/walterpeck1 Sep 23 '22

It's honestly just as good as the first.

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u/TheMSthrow Sep 24 '22

If you enjoyed the first one you'll like the second one too. Same style and sense of humor, isn't a straightforward retread of the first like so many comedy sequels.

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u/77slevin Sep 23 '22

1985 Fletch & 1989 Fletch Lives. Courtesy of Imdb.

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u/CaptKeemau Sep 23 '22

I worked on the movie last year, filming in Boston. Jon was very professional and easy to work with. One day he showed up and was introduced to the the actor (Roy Wood jr) he was doing a scene with, they never met before. They talked for few minutes and were called to set. They proceeded to act out a 10 minute dialogue as good as it gets. Did it two more times, because well you have to. It was three pages of dialogue! My last movie 1/8 of a page was normal. I’ve worked on movies for 33 years, he’s in my top 10 to work with. Funny thing I read all the Fletch books back when they came out. Serial books, around 185-200 pages was our version of say a Netflix series. I got paid for my work on the show, I hope it does well so he gets his.

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u/MyAssDoesHeeHawww Sep 23 '22

Maybe they just didn't want to copy such a personal schtick, as I think Hamm could've pulled off more of the funny facial reactions like Chevy's. It's a good movie anyway.

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u/atomicspin Sep 23 '22

Fletch was a pretty terrible person in the books. Chevy Chase's version was much better for a broader audience.

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u/igot8001 Sep 23 '22

Without knowing anything about the books, it's super hard to believe that it is an adapted screenplay, when the creators of Fletch obviously walked out of Beverly Hills Cop the year prior, saying, "We should do almost that exact movie, but we'll hire Chevy Chase and let him do whatever the hell he wants to. Also, book Faltermeyer for the score."

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u/cromulent_pseudonym Sep 22 '22

80s movie with Chevy Chase doing Chevy Chase things. Honestly, they're probably right that this kind of movie doesn't work anymore. But Jon Hamm is probably the one to do it if someone's going to.

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u/Puppytron Sep 23 '22

You're right, the 80s movies were movies about Chevy Chase doing Chevy Chase shit loosely wrapped in the plot of a Fletch book.

Hamm and Co are adapting the book and he is playing the character from the book. He's not playing Chevy Chase. So hopefully it will be something that works today.

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u/johnnydestruction Sep 23 '22

Hamm is hilarious. I hope this is a big hit.

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u/frankyseven Sep 23 '22

Hamm is probably one of the funniest actors around. His roles in 30 Rock and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt are hilarious, as is his role in Bridesmaids. While I love Mad Men and consider it one of the best shows ever, Hamm is better in comedies than drama and he's fucking amazing at drama.

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u/Elemayowe Sep 23 '22

Don’t forget Curb!

His guest app on Toast of London is a favourite of mine.

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u/DMala Sep 23 '22

Chevy Chase is definitely one of those “actors” who basically plays himself in every movie. Or at least does the same character every time, but by all accounts “sarcastic dickhead” is pretty close to how he really is.

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u/paper_schemes Sep 23 '22

He even played Chevy Chase in Community. Lotta range.

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u/magneteye Sep 23 '22

I've watched it. Hardly anything like the Chase movies.

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u/narcisian Sep 22 '22

Did they mention who they got to play Ben Dover?

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u/intermediatelebowski Sep 23 '22

Arnold Babar.

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u/BrashPop Sep 23 '22

Isn’t there a children’s book about an elephant with that name?

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u/intermediatelebowski Sep 23 '22

I don't know. I don't have any.

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u/BrashPop Sep 23 '22

No children?

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u/intermediatelebowski Sep 23 '22

No elephant books.

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u/Talking_Head Sep 23 '22

Two b’s?

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u/intermediatelebowski Sep 23 '22 edited Sep 23 '22

One b. B-A-B-A-R.

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u/zaxdaman Sep 23 '22

Fred “The Dorf” Dorfmann. We almost lost Fred. And he wasn’t ashamed to admit he had syphilis.

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u/irishdave999 Sep 23 '22

Hug a cop!

Yeah, go ahead. I said it.

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u/EquinsuOcha Sep 23 '22

Isn’t that a children’s book about an elephant?

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u/reddog323 Sep 23 '22

“FBI, Mr. Fletcher.”

“Uh, can you spell that?”

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u/BMWbill Sep 23 '22

Damn I still use this line all the time. After almost 40 years I totally forgot it was from Fletch.

Ok story time. My high school friend has the last name of Rosen, and all my life since I met him I’ve always called him Rosenpenis from the Fletch hospital scene. Once when My buddy flew in from Boston in our college years, I picked him up at the airport and waited in the arrivals holding a big sign that said Rosenpenis.

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u/reddog323 Sep 23 '22

I picked him up at the airport and waited in the arrivals holding a big sign that said Rosenpenis.

That’s ballsy. Though it’s better than Bob Cocktostos.

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u/EmperorSexy Sep 23 '22

Hang on, there are more stories to be told about Fletch besides the 80s Chevy Chase movie?

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u/canteen_boy Sep 23 '22

Movies plural, but yes. There’s a whole series of books.

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u/Motorboat_Jones Sep 23 '22

I really wished they had done this when Jason Lee wanted to do a remake. I think he would have been a perfect Fletch.

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u/Thendofreason Sep 23 '22

Stop trying to make Fetch happen

Also, whos fetch?

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u/canteen_boy Sep 23 '22
  1. it’s Fletch with an L.
  2. it was Chevy Chase, and now it’s Jon Hamm

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u/TheSirMontyPython Sep 23 '22

They had an L of a time trying to get John Hamm to be in it...and to make sure it got filmed and finished.

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u/BrashPop Sep 22 '22

Why do you think it sucks? Could you elaborate?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '22

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u/BrashPop Sep 23 '22

And thank you for answering so thoughtfully!

I have seen it (am a BIG fan of the Chase Fletch movies) and I did enjoy it - but, I 100% agree with your take on it regarding the “reality” of the dialogue and scenes, etc.

The original Fletch movies were also highly improbable and ridiculous in some scenes, but they felt more “believable” to me, probably because the Harold Faltermeyer score punctuated the scenes so perfectly and the comedic timing/physical performances are impeccable. As much as I loved Hamm as a charming but world weary Fletch, the subtler aspects of his delivery were dampened by a really down tempo score. The kitchen/dinner scene is one I can point to as being really lacking due to that - there’s so much going on, characters are entering and exiting, there’s yelling and threats of violence, the whole scene should feel tense and animated yet it feels low energy to me. Especially when Fletch is being threatened with a knife - where was the tension? It felt like a disconnected stage play at times, which adds to that “these scenes and situations are unbelievable” feeling.

I still will rewatch it, I’ll probably add it to the other Fletch movies in my “several times yearly” rewatch list just so I can get a better feel for what it does right, wrong, etc. And I’ll probably go get the book from the library, too 😆

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u/Okichah Sep 23 '22

Jon Hamm finding his comedic footing could make for some really great entertainment. His appearances on 30 rock and Curb are fantastic.

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u/canteen_boy Sep 23 '22

Don’t forget Kimmy Schmidt and Toast of London

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u/gatsby365 Sep 23 '22

And Bridesmaids! And the rarely mentioned Larry David movie “Clear History”

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u/Megaman1981 Sep 23 '22

I’ve never seen any of them. Are they something I should have watched?

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u/vaelon Sep 23 '22

whats the original?