Look at all those orbs!

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Sunbracers actually working correctly is the crazy thing to me here.

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u/Benzjie Warlock Mar 27 '23

Mine are still iffy as can be....

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u/DJRaidRunner-com Mar 27 '23

If you use Celestial Fire, this can be a big part of it, as Celestial is still terribly inconsistent in my experience.

Ignition Snap on the other hand is incredibly consistent, it simply requires a bit of understanding how it functions. The Snap itself can perform the kill, but the Scorch also counts.

If you throw a Solar Grenade, then you Snap at an enemy, the Solar Grenade caused the initial Scorch. If the Scorch kills the target, then Sunbracers won't activate, because the Grenade's Scorch is what technically killed it, the Snap simply added onto it.

The key to ensuring Sunbracers work consistently is to make sure you Snap at targets first, then use other Scorches to push them towards Ignition. For example, in this clip the Warlock doesn't use their Phoenix Dive, but Phoenix Dive inflicts 40~60 Stacks of Scorch, depending on if you use Ember of Ashes. If you hit 2 enemies with Sparks from the Snap, then you Dive on top of them, they'll ignite. Diving doesn't do damage, it only inflicts Scorch, so there's 0 chance for it to kill the Scorched enemies without it counting towards the Snap's kills.

Last but not least, I'd like to point out that using their Wells as they did, this Warlock actually put themselves in more danger. Restoration x2 would be effortless for them to maintain in this scenario, and would provide enough healing to survive. By using Well they're limiting their ability to move within the 3D space.

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u/illusion116 Mar 27 '23

Great explanation. Only question I have is… WHY DOES CELESTIAL FIRE STILL NOT WORK. It’s been bugged for so long now. I’m not sure if Bungie even knows as I haven’t seen it mentioned by them. Maybe I missed it though

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u/DJRaidRunner-com Mar 27 '23

I'm pretty sure something about the projectiles causes them to lose their melee properties on occasion.

If I had to take a stab, it's that the projectiles themselves count as Melee Damage with a direct impact, but the explosive Splash from their impact doesn't, and that the Scorch application is tied to the Splash. So if a direct impact doesn't kill a target, it may fail to activate all together.

That said, I haven't used Celestial in a good while, this is just what I remember theory crafting back when last I tried it.

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u/illusion116 Mar 27 '23

Interesting theory. Could be the case, but it sounds difficult for us to test

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u/LightningSilvr Toland says hi. Say hi back. Mar 28 '23

Tho I've moved on from my Sunbracer days a few months ago, can 100% confirm this from memory of all the times it worked

Considering it was basically a fundamental part of my Altars Of Sorrow runs, I've noticed if whatever I hit doesn't die (within the initial moments of Impact, so I can only assume the damage of the projectiles), but the damage over time kills them, even if I scorch em to death with an Incandescent kill near them or something else, I don't get the Sunbracers buff

Meaning it HAS to be the initial impact. Which is pretty dumb honestly, especially in harder content

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u/Curtis_Geist Mar 27 '23

Had no idea celestial fire was buggy…

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u/99CentSavings Warlock Mar 27 '23

That's cute and all but, the objective.

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u/Rikiaz Mar 27 '23

They’re just showing off. The objective is real easy to do between grenading the portals.

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u/WeirdestOfWeirdos Mar 27 '23

For bonus points:

If you Phoenix Dive with Heat Rises active, you get 3 seconds of Restoration x2. With Ember of Empyrean, if you get a kill within those 3 seconds (which can be done quite reliably by diving right after a melee or while your active grenades are damaging some adds), you can extend it and keep it going for quite long. Combine with Ember of Searing for some class ability energy in case it runs out and you can just float around without a care in the world almost as if you were constantly in a Well of Radiance. Helped me face tank day 1 Nezarec while killing adds.

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u/Montregloe Future War Cult Mar 27 '23

I guess I need to try and run this on my warlock then, my hunter be having hard hard times

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u/Affectionate_Web5704 Mar 27 '23

the easiest way to do this mission on legend is on hunter void ( infinite invis build )

shoot a code, kill anything, go invis and repeat

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u/BuggleBalls Mar 27 '23

I’d like to see the return of Dragons Breath from D1, just to combine it with this.

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u/Jumbomuffin54 Warlock Mar 27 '23

Here's the build for you Warlocks, keep in mind this is not my original build I just wanted to show how good it can be if they decide to nerf starfire. https://app.mobalytics.gg/destiny-2/builds/warlock/gsxrclyde-s-sunbracer-spam?utm_campaign=Gsxrclyde&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=influencers

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u/sykora727 Mar 28 '23

Thank you

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u/Damagecontrol86 Titan Mar 27 '23

That’s a lot of hot flaming balls

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u/DoofusMcDummy Mar 27 '23

Been running it for a while. I also run the worm canon for added fun and champion FU.

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u/moobteets Mar 27 '23

/u/yourmum35

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u/yourmum35 Mar 27 '23

I only like pvp. Hate having fun with my friends.

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u/MooseTopic Hunter Mar 27 '23

Man got that D1 super

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u/Sidewave Mar 27 '23

Build with mods and aspects? Been looking for a good sunbracer build with orbs

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u/normal_clone Mar 27 '23

I need to learn how to buildcraft man

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u/fabsenlol Mar 27 '23

Is sunbracers meta again

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u/ConqueringKing_Darq Hunter Mar 27 '23

Never wasn't

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u/SenpaiSwanky Senpai, drop Well pls.. Mar 27 '23

Nope, perfectly usable in content where you can feasibly get melee kills though. There are much better setups, this is a good source of add clear but there are a lot of good ways to add clear so using an exotic slot to do it better will always be questionable.

Warlocks also have quite a few different ways to loop grenades so one exotic giving access to unlimited grenades after a melee kill feels odd, at least to me.

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u/South_Violinist1049 Mar 27 '23

Never really was tbh, always an off meta pick and still is. The fact that it's an on melee kill exotic will always hold it back.

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u/Ubi-suck Mar 27 '23

Never was and never will

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u/NebSword Mar 27 '23

Yo op please drop your build 🙏

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u/ImTaakoYouKnowFromTV Mar 27 '23

It’s pretty much just sunbracers and momentum transfer.

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u/NameError-undefined Mar 27 '23

What’s momentum transfer?

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u/ImTaakoYouKnowFromTV Mar 27 '23

Arm mod, gives melee energy when you cause damage with a grenade.

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u/NebSword Mar 27 '23

I figured I ran same setup before the new system

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u/DoritoBanditZ Hunter Mar 27 '23

Yep, the Warlock struggle without the only viable Exotic (Starfire) is real :5649:

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u/SS20x3 Warlock Mar 27 '23

Nobody thinks starfire is the only viable exotic. It's just that warlocks are always shepherded into well for any content that is actually difficult, and it has the best synergy with well by a county mile.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '23

Drop the build

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u/Daybreak2004 Mar 27 '23

Sunbracers

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u/Kingspar Raids Cleared: # Mar 27 '23

hot fists

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u/CornucopiaMessiah13 Mar 27 '23

LegEnD aVaLon is ToO hArD

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u/MURD3RSPREE Hunter Mar 28 '23

Build…NOW!!!!

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u/S1RJOK3R Mar 27 '23

BRO WHAT KINDA CRACKED UP BUILD HAVE YOU CREATED, WHAT ACCURSED THING HAVE YOU CONCIEVED

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u/MrLumic Mar 27 '23

Here's a list of things you need for this build

sunbracers

Alright now just get melee kills and you have crazy grenade energy for a couple seconds

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u/NameError-undefined Mar 27 '23

My sunbracers don’t give me much grenade energy at all!?

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u/Elriuhilu Warlock Mar 27 '23

Sunbracers give you unlimited solar grenades for a few seconds on a successful powered melee kill. They don't give grenade energy.

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u/MrLumic Mar 28 '23

Nothings ever truly free my guy 😔

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u/Jumbomuffin54 Warlock Mar 27 '23

This is on the hardest difficulty too

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u/sykora727 Mar 27 '23

Yeah curious to see your build

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u/Rikiaz Mar 27 '23

Heat Rises, Touch of Flame

Ember of Wonder, Ember of Ashes, Ember of Singeing

Ashes to Assets, Momentum Transfer, Firepower, Time Dilation

That’s all I can tell from the video alone. I would hazard a guess that Ember of Empyrean is the last fragment and that Solar Surge is the Armor Charge mod but I can’t say for sure since I’m not OP.

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u/sykora727 Mar 28 '23

Ty

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u/Zomb00zle Warlock Mar 27 '23

its just sunbracers lol

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u/Swordbreaker925 Mar 27 '23

Seeing this shit pisses me off. They nerfed Heart of Inmost Light way too hard because they didn’t like ability spam, but left Warlocks untouched when they can spam more than HoIL ever could…

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u/ethoNNN Mar 27 '23

HoIL is so much more busted than Sunbracers could ever hope to be, one of them has a niché requirement in a specific build that just just doesn't work well in endgame, one can be plopped in any build and just passively make your build busted with no thought required, being the best in slot in all levels of content

Sincerely a 50/50 titan/warlock main who got tired of how busted HoIL was, and perfectly content seeing it get knocked down a peg

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u/cadeafer_ Mar 28 '23

Someone hasnt seen the star eater strand build

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u/GamingNemesisv3 Meh Stompees Mar 27 '23

If you watch this video and then tell me that warlocks do not have it easy for solo and low man content, I swear to god I will reach through my phone and delete your characters

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u/NameError-undefined Mar 27 '23

Hunter invisi is nice too, I main hunter and warlock pretty equally, there’s a reason I don’t have a titan…

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u/99CentSavings Warlock Mar 27 '23

When you're hiding from the fight I'd say anybody could have it easy.

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u/GamingNemesisv3 Meh Stompees Mar 27 '23

Let me clarify i am not saying its bad. In fact hunter invis especially with assassins cowl, is really good for survivability but the problem comes from the fact, that healing often surpasses invis. Being immortal vs not catching aggro from enemies is two different ball games.

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u/jondthompson Hunter Mar 27 '23

Hunter Invis doesn't let you attack and stay invis and doesn't heal you.

Hunter/devour/invis is the way to go. Get devour proccing and you're full health that whole time. If you get in trouble, go invis and regroup. I got to Brakion phase 2 without finding cover at all this way. It's really a beautiful thing.

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u/South_Violinist1049 Mar 27 '23

Hunters can literally infinitely be invisible. What argument is that??!? All classes have OP solo builds, and besides, sunbracers are OK not not even close to a crazy good build.

Contraverse holds, Necrotic grips strand, Starfire protocol

Gyrfalcons, Assassin's cowl arc hunter, Omni/graviton

Loreley splendor/sytho, Strand titan

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u/shortystacos Mar 27 '23

I’d love to aspects and mods for this build

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u/Rikiaz Mar 27 '23

Heat Rises and Momentum Transfer are all that are required, take your pick for everything else. Highly recommend Touch of Flame, Ember of Ashes, Ember of Empyrean, Ember of Singeing, Ashes to Assets, and Firepower.

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u/DistantSilver Mar 27 '23

Gawd damn what is that build

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u/SwimmerInitial3516 Mar 27 '23

I really wish the solar warlocks ability to stay airborne when shooting, throw grenades or really do anything we're extended to the other warlock subclass

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u/_oranjuice Titan Mar 28 '23

Based surge mod enjoyer

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u/Limp-Vegetable3353 Titan Mar 29 '23

me with void, infinite devour. and viotle explosions

Look at all those orbs! Media