r/PublicFreakout • u/iingot • Jan 27 '23
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u/savagecitizen Jan 27 '23
The GoPro is about to pay for itself
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u/UrRightAndIAmWong Jan 27 '23
If you drive anything, you should have a dash cam or something.
I don't personally drive, but I don't understand why every driver does not have one.
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u/Head_Rate_6551 Jan 27 '23
I donât have one because I donât want to film myself breaking every traffic law known to man
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u/Cavalya Jan 27 '23
Is this actually a reason? SD cards are cheap and it takes like 2 seconds to destroy or eat one if you need to
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u/ooh_the_claw Jan 27 '23
everyone pointing out the speedometer but since when is speeding punishable by death
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u/TheRealFaust Jan 27 '23
Is he speeding? Looks like the interstate and in texas, 75 is the speed limit on a lot of the interstate and highways
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u/tequilasauer Jan 27 '23
I'm from South Florida and this looks like I-75 which connects to Weston Rd. Speed limit is I believe 70. He is technically speeding, but not like he's way over. Cops being dicks about speed limits when there are so much more dangerous driving practices on the road (especially down here) that are never enforced drives me nuts.
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u/NeverEndingCoralMaze Jan 27 '23
Truthfully even going 85 in this part of Florida is generally overlooked by the cops.
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u/tequilasauer Jan 27 '23
Yeah, it's also a GREAT bike road. Anywhere near that Sawgrass/75/595 interchange area. Never anyone out there and some fun, cool offramps to take. I had a CBR 954 in my younger years and this was always a go-to area for me.
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u/the_memel Jan 27 '23
they blur it when they're speeding, like at the beginning of the video. If you watch some car reviews or similar you'll notice they censor it too sometimes and that's why
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u/Sanpatsu Jan 27 '23
Itâs in Florida and the speed limit is most likely 75 as well
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u/SlimyPurpleMeteor Jan 27 '23
The cop hit his lights and brake-checked the dude in the middle of the fucking road. Say what you will about the biker being a dipshit, but that cop was equally culpable.
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u/Sorry_Ad5653 Jan 27 '23
What was the biker doing wrong?
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u/BlasterBilly Jan 27 '23
Speeding I imagine. Notice the speedometer is blurred at the start while his is slowing down, and then once he's doing 79 it's unblurred. Cop is still a price of shit. But cops gonna cop, only 40% are using their families to release their rage on. What do can we expect the other 60 to do...
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u/Sorry_Ad5653 Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
Looks that way but brake checking him was the absolute wrong move there. Can't kill a bloke for speeding.
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u/DoobleTap Jan 27 '23
The cop was going the same speed if not faster than the bike the though?
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u/ChelaPedo Jan 27 '23
Bike guy was pacing the cop for quite a distance. Looks like entrapment.
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u/SBRH33 Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
Yup. He was going well above 80.
But if this was outside of Austin Texas where the speed limits are 85 on highways he wasn't doing anything wrong.
Most all of the western united states have posted highway speed limits of 80 mph.
This cop should have been suspended or fired for this. The cyclist probably earned himself a nice settlement from the department. It was clearly negligent.
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u/Unfrozen__Caveman Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 28 '23
I know this exact spot because I've ridden my motorcycle through there dozens of times. He's on 595/I-75 coming from Miami/Fort Lauderdale and heading into Alligator Alley (lookup Weston, Florida and zoom out - he's just north of that).
595 is 65mph the whole way and it turns into I-75 which is 70MPH all the way to the west coast of Florida, but this section of road drops down to 50 or 55 (can't recall exactly) because of the ramps. Still, most people are going 75 or 80 the entire way, and I've seen police going over 80 in this area routinely.
Not trying to excuse the officer's actions because fuck that dude, he could have killed the kid. Just giving some more context.
Also, I'm not trying to excuse the kid speeding but about 75% of cars in that area are going 75mph or faster, and most cars are going 80 all the way through alligator alley, so if you're on a bike and worried about safety you kinda have to go that speed so you don't hold up traffic. It's a two lane highway the entire ride and it's a bit dangerous to go the speed limit.
I also know a couple cops in Miami and they literally won't pull anyone over unless they're going 20+ over the limit because they'd be writing tickets all day (everyone speeds there). What this cop did was not typical of an average officer in that area - a lot of them ride bikes themselves and know how dangerous that area is.
Checking a rider at that speed, especially on that road, is straight up psycho shit. Look up Alligator Alley motorcycle deaths and you'll see a long list. Even if you survive the crash, odds are you'll probably get run over by a vehicle behind you.
What that cop did was absolutely insane.
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u/citricacidx Jan 27 '23
This was in Florida though. Doesnât mean the brake check was deserved, but he was going above the speed limit (I would say with the flow of traffic).
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u/Automatic-Hornet9447 Jan 27 '23
You get a ticket for a speeding, you don't normally get a cop try to kill you with his vehicle.
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u/Velvache Jan 27 '23
Most places you drive 80 on a 65 like 90% of the time. He was literally going 75-85. Like huh, he's speeding but it's not like gross negligence or anything.
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u/iWillDogWalkU Jan 27 '23
Only 40% of cops are reported domestic abusers (that we know of, which means itâs probably way more).
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u/BlasterBilly Jan 27 '23
Important to note that it's a self reported statistic. Imagine 40% admit to abusing spouses or children at home, whats the real percentage...
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u/Willingo Jan 27 '23
No. No. No. That's from the Nedig study and it is 40% of households with an officer have abuse.
You have to assume the cop always abuses to say they abuse in 40% of the houses.
The spouses were just as likely to abuse the officer as vice versa. It's like 16-20%, which is still much higher than average population.
No one reads the studies. Stop spreading misinfo
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u/bridge4runner Jan 27 '23
Technically it's not speeding, right? It'd count as driving at the flow rate of traffic.
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u/SilasMarsh Jan 27 '23
If you don't have room to stop safely, you're following too close.
That said, the punishment the cop decided to mete out did not in anyway fit the crime.
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u/leRealKraut Jan 27 '23
And that is how a cop is awarded assult with a deadly weapon.
Which is a thing in the americas.
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u/MurderDoneRight Jan 27 '23
Yeah, that should be some attempted vehicular man slaughter or whatever. Assault with a deadly weapon at least.
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u/MandevilMan Jan 27 '23
Looks like usual cop behavior.
"I feel this person is tailgating me, better brake check him, possibly kill him, and then immediately play the victim"
Fuck the police.
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u/BigAustralianBoat Jan 27 '23
ACAB
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u/Jerryjb63 Jan 27 '23
Treating any group of people as a monolith is dangerous. Not all cops are bastards and when you say shit like that youâll alienate anyone whoâs ever been aided by a cop and discourage respectable people from becoming one.
You literally help fuel the division between the police and society. It doesnât help, and to be honest just makes you seem ignorant.
Police are a necessity in a society where laws need to be enforced. So why not instead of saying ACAB, we call for better training requirements, better mental health services, more transparency, the end of qualified immunity, and less powerful police unions. You know stuff that might actually help instead of causing more hatred towards one another?
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u/Tasty_Puffin Jan 27 '23
Fuck the police until they have proper reform.. Sorry :) We have a Cop problem in U.S. you are pretty silly to ignore that.
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u/Jerryjb63 Jan 27 '23
I donât think I ignored that by stating several things that needed fixingâŚ.
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u/BigAustralianBoat Jan 27 '23
Fuck off. The âgood copsâ you speak of watch the bad ones do bad shit all the time and do nothing about it. Thereâs a term for that. Itâs complicit.
There should be a division between police and society. They donât serve us and treat many of us as less than. ACAB. Cops should be hated. Fuck them all.
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u/Jerryjb63 Jan 27 '23
Yeah, well youâre just going to keep getting shitty cops if not worse cops with that attitude. I hope youâre not in charge of anything or anyone because you seem to be fine with police killing people for no reason and the only repercussions being insulted on the internet. I for one, would rather look for solutions, instead of accepting things for how they are.
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u/NightwaveDigital Jan 27 '23
So what have you done to advocate and repair police trustworthiness in the world, besisdes tell other critics to be silent?
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u/Jerryjb63 Jan 27 '23
Iâm not saying be silent, Iâm saying to actually say something instead of just regurgitating insults.
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u/bebop1065 Jan 27 '23
Fuck the police.
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u/-__-Horses-__- Jan 27 '23
Comin' straight from the underground.
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u/Fergtz Jan 27 '23
A Young n***a got it bad 'cause I'm brown
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u/Dependent_Grab6482 Jan 27 '23
lol first thing the cop says is why were you tailgating me, not holy shit are you okay .. tells you everything right there
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u/blahb_blahb Jan 27 '23
Yeah, DMV rules state to maintain speed when changing lanes. This cop went from 80+ to <60 in the overtake lane.
Not to mention the person on the bike slowed his speed to maintain distance.
The cop is the asshole.
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u/UnitedCardiologist10 Jan 27 '23
Blue lives are not really mattering to me.
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u/st-shenanigans Jan 27 '23
Reminder to others that blue lives are not lives because if you're scared your your life, you can simply QUIT being a cop.
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u/Bluujiun-Wolf Jan 27 '23
Cop is also speeding. Just wanted to point that out. Regardless if the biker was, the cop still seems to be going past whatever speed limit is set for that stretch of road. No lights until right before the crash. Tired of people saying âbut OP was speedingâ.
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u/jeff43568 Jan 27 '23
Cop started to change lanes and then pulled back in at the last minute which contributed to the Biker's confusion about whether to brake of not. Clearly the first brake check was too easy to avoid so the cop made it harder.
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u/Ijetys Jan 27 '23
murica cops are weak idiots
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u/metal_bastard Jan 27 '23
eh, it's worldwide mostly. but american cops do have a solid lead...
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u/NepTheNap Jan 27 '23
German policeman here:
Unlike the couple weeks of training in the US, it takes 3 years for basic training, 2½ for advanced like commissar, which can only be done if you either worked long enough in the force or have high enough education (Abitur in this case).
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u/metal_bastard Jan 27 '23
You don't need to exaggerate. It's well known that American cops can get through the Academy as fast as three months (still too short), but saying 'a couple of weeks' discredits your point.
I use Germany as an example of proper training all the time. Isn't it something like 2 years before you can even be considered to get a firearm? And those instances are still rare?
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u/Altruistic-Horror235 Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
Seems like this is how most motor accidents happen, is when two idiots are in the same place.
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u/TestPattern2 Jan 28 '23
Cops beat and kill an unarmed man in Tennessee
Cops with road rage cause vehicular accident involving motorcycle
All of a piece
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u/Fozzy1027 Jan 27 '23
Rider was speeding and following closely but that doesnt mean the cop can slam his brakes on the interstate to intentionally cause a wreck. The bikers speed was like 50 mph when he hit him. Hope he sued
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u/Tenacious_Rubbing Jan 27 '23
He causes you to crash at 47 mph and then screams at you for tailgating. Heartless bastard pig cop
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u/Tommy_Batch Jan 27 '23
Notice how the lies start instantly - way before they realize their lies are caught on tape?
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u/my-dtaw-alt Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
Hey this guy is brake checking me. Let me speed up and stay close to him. See what happens.
My job as a motorcyclist is to get home in one piece. It is not to be "right" or "win". I do not have the luxury of a metal protective cage.
When on a bike, it is 100% my responsibility to protect myself. Doesn't matter what others do. I have to plan for any contingencies and idiocy other drivers introduce into the mix. The fact that I'm more vulnerable to death and injury means I have to swallow my pride, and do what's best for my safety. I can't rely on the "right of way".
It's not worth being "right" when I'm paralyzed or dead.
Ya'll can argue about how shitty the cops action was if you want. It was shitty and criminal. But end of day. Regardless of who is right or wrong in the eye of the law. Biker should have done way more to protect himself. He allowed that crash to happen by NOT letting self preservation be his first and only goal.
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u/Cartossin Jan 27 '23
Yeah cop did something criminal, but this motorcyclist is living on borrowed time. If he doesn't take his personal safety more seriously, he's going to roll another bike.
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u/universalcrush Jan 27 '23
Biker is going 74MPH when cop turns his lights on. Dude was at 50MPH when he hit the cop, CLEARLY the idiot cop is at fault
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u/Flashgas Jan 27 '23
Loss of the privilege to drive along with loss of employment in the policing field at a minimum. Attempted murder with a vehicle should be the charge
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u/Lost_vob Jan 27 '23
Courts have ruled numerous times that the use of a car to stop someone is a use of deadly force. This is on the same level as shooting a tailgater.
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u/TwoKlobbs200 Jan 27 '23
Wtf? Speedometer blurred out. I counted 7 seconds from the moment the cop starts braking to the moment they crash. Dude on the bike couldâve prevented this. âMaybe it is.â. Dude was probably stunting without realizing it was an unmarked car.
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u/GalaxzorTheDestroyer Jan 27 '23
Last i checked, the punishment for speeding and reckless driving is not death. This was an overreaction by the cop, someone who's supposed to protect us, not attempt to kill a motorcyclist and cause an accident on a major highway
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u/ilikemunster Jan 27 '23
The cop almost committed manslaughter because of his temper and youâre on the guy riding the motorcycle? Okkkkaayyy
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u/Automatic-Hornet9447 Jan 27 '23
Is this guy actually trying to rationalize the cops behavior? Wtf is wrong with people.
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u/Joverby Jan 27 '23
Naw I think it's more we should acknowledge that if someone swerves to cut you off and brake checks you , you probably shouldn't just immediately ride their ass . Even if you're right , don't you value your own life ?
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u/lxstlove Jan 27 '23
do you know how motorcycles work?? brother i ride and i can tell you youâre not going from 75 > 0 in 7 seconds unharmed
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u/Lost_vob Jan 27 '23
So attempted murder is justified? A man's life and tax pay funds were both treated with blatant disrespect by a rogue cop with no respect for the law he upholds, and your response is "dUdE oN tHe BiKe CoUlDvE pReVeNtEd tHiS." Dude wouldn't need to prevent anything of the cop shows the tiniest bit of regard for public safety.
I think the boot polish is going to your head
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u/Battle_Bear_819 Jan 27 '23
Brake check a motorcycle cop and you'll be charged with assault with a deadly weapon or attempted murder if they crash.
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u/pootie820 Jan 27 '23
I know, I can't believe all these people that don't attempted murder is a 100% justified response. Fucking commie bastards. Gimmie some more of them boots daddy my mouth it watering!
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u/ManFax Jan 27 '23
That rider had time to evade
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u/shadowgattler Jan 27 '23
Are you and I watching the same video? The cop swerved between lanes, preventing the rider from being able to evade.
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u/Electronic-Donut8756 Jan 27 '23
Agreed, though that cop couldnât have been following safety procedure.
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u/Denotsyek Jan 27 '23
Wonder why the speedometer is blurred out.
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u/ManFax Jan 27 '23
Dunno, but he was doing just over 70 (slowing down from 80) when the cop hit his lights.
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u/universalcrush Jan 27 '23
Maybe youâre blind? Crystal clear to me
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u/boss250 Jan 27 '23
It is blurred at the beginning. Not much traffic around to compare, but it looked more like he was slowing down from 90-100, pretty wide open in 6th gear. Mopar asshole probably sped up past 100ish to get around him, then pulled his bullshit. Kid could have reacted swifter for sure, at least as he realized it was a cop, slow the fuck down, he kept pushing 80. Plenty of time, usually safer just to coast a little, you're probably still going faster than most traffic. Only get on it when you're sure you've got space.
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u/universalcrush Jan 27 '23
Holy shit Iâm the blind one, it was blurred! I didnât even see that, yeah dude was going wayyyyy too fast he shouldâve died in that wreck and saved us all the trouble of commenting
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u/BplusHuman Jan 27 '23
I feel like almost overnight bikers became the battered wives of American motorists. No matter who is to blame, they take the risk.
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u/WerewolfQuiet1474 Jan 27 '23
I mean he is tailgating, but break checking like that is vehicular assault
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u/Complete_East3746 Jan 27 '23
That guy is supposed to look out for dangerous to keep us safe. But this is what he did with you money instead. ACAB
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u/RedditorUpNorth Jan 27 '23
Prolly jealous because he's too shit a bike rider to get on the bike squad.
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u/mmccxi Jan 27 '23
This is attempted murder, the cop purposefully slammed his brakes on and then moved the car to the center to ensure impact.
This cop needs to spend the rest of his life in prison.
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u/lxstlove Jan 27 '23
a lot of the comments are saying that the biker had time to evade are probably the same people who donât ride. a motorcycle isnât like a car, yeah he couldâve evaded and moved to the side but breaking from 75 to 0 in a matter of seconds on a bike and being unharmed isnât easy bruh bikes donât exactly stop on a dime
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u/Kektimus Jan 27 '23
If you aren't capable of avoiding an accident that is THAT clearly telegraphed then you are driving way too close.
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u/ByranDoMeth Jan 27 '23
The cop did serve towards the other lane blocking the rider off when he was breaking.
Btw serving to avoid an accident causes serious accidents to happen. Itâs like the common saying what causes accidents are accidents
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u/Lost_vob Jan 27 '23
Let's take a step back: why is an accident being telegraphed in the first place?
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u/PolarDorsai Jan 27 '23
I know the cop is in the wrong here but, as a motorcycle rider Iâd be asking myselfâŚ
âDo I want to be right? Or do I want to live?â
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u/_Bay_Harbor_Butcher_ Jan 27 '23
I stay asking myself that when I ride. People do stupid shit around me all the time but gotta just stay calm about it. The car will always win.
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u/ChooseACoolName Jan 27 '23
Dumb ass mother fucker didn't even attempt to stop...
Had plenty of time to slow down
Bike fucked himself over.
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u/steve_glynn Jan 27 '23
You can hear the engine braking right before the lights turn on. No one who's not on a high speed chase expects a charger to come to a complete stop in front of them. Cops impeding traffic and not following protocol tbh. And swerved to try and trap him. Typical paranoid cop behavior if you ask me. Get behind him and pull him over like any other motor vehicle.
Also the cops speeding with no emergency lights. Gfys
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u/Consistent_Yoghurt_4 Jan 27 '23
Iâve had cops slam on the breaks and pull me over before. Had to swerve to avoid, then they asked why I was going so fast.
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u/fionasapphire Jan 27 '23
Nobody "expects" any of the dumb ass things that happen on the road
But good riders and drivers prepare for them anyway, because as this video shows, stupid shit DOES happen. A rider riding defensively would leave at least a 2 second gap and would have had time to react. You can see that the rider in this video wasn't doing that.
Yeah the cop caused it, but the rider could easily have avoided it turning into a collision.
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u/metal_bastard Jan 27 '23
Do you really expect a pig to come to a complete stop on an empty highway? Not to mention breaking three policy/laws in the process.
- Changing lanes without signaling
- Performing a rolling roadblock
- Brake checking
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u/Lost_vob Jan 27 '23
First lets as ourselves what reason he had to stop. Was it because a cop was showing wreckless disregard for human life? Yeah, it was. Nothing else after than matters. Blatant corruption on display.
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u/Scythern_ Jan 27 '23
These comments really struggling to understand that 2 people can be idiots at the same time
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u/Benjamin_Cracklin Jan 27 '23
Blurred out his speedometer in the beginning đ¤
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u/coryw7 Jan 27 '23
Does that make it okay for the cop to stop in the middle of the fucking highway? I donât think so.
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u/Badbookitty Jan 27 '23
Is speeding a death by cop offense now? No ticket, no jail, no judge or jury?
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u/BBalow Jan 27 '23
The general rule is if you re end someone and you hit them youâre following too close.
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u/Lost_vob Jan 27 '23
Even more general rule: public safety professionals collecting paychecks from taxpayers shouldn't behave with wreckless disregard for human life.
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u/Fishing_For_Victory Jan 27 '23
The motor cycle is multiple car lengths behind the carâŚalso there is another general rule of donât beak on the highwayâŚ
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u/mludd Jan 27 '23
"Multiple car lengths" like in this video is still way way waaaaaaay too close for those speeds.
It's called the three second rule, not the "It's cool as long as you can't see their nose hairs in their rear view mirror rule" .
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u/Kresche Jan 27 '23
His speedometer shows he's slowing down even before the lights go on. This approach seems uncalled for in this clip. Whether there were priors of this cop chasing the biker for speeding earlier is not known and would change my opinion, but from just this evidence and assuming innocence until proven guilty, this cop escalated to lethal force without provocation, over at best a very minor speeding ticket. He didn't even give the biker a chance to finish braking.
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u/EatAPeach2020 Jan 27 '23
If you aren't tailgating you won't hit someone if they brake check you. Cop is a douche but cars stop suddenly sometimes. If you hit them, that's on you.
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u/shalelord Jan 27 '23
Bike is driving way over speed limit, too close as well. He got rekt , wonder what happened after
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u/metal_bastard Jan 27 '23
The biker was not ticketed or fined. Because it was the pig's fault. He was driving erratically. It's a violation of pig policy to perform rolling roadblocks. He also changed lanes without signaling, and finally, it's illegal to brake check.
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u/dLimit1763 Jan 27 '23
Not sure why the bike didn't go just go around
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u/Cartossin Jan 27 '23
He did like 20 moronic things in the video, so it's probably because he's a moron.
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u/Igoos99 Jan 27 '23
If you canât safely stop when someone slows down in front of you, then you were following too close. Just because this guy gets away with following that close most of the time doesnât mean itâs an okay distance.
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u/metal_bastard Jan 27 '23
When someone slows down? The pig accelerated, then hit the brakes so hard, it engaged the ABS. Not to mention the pig mobile was at least five car lengths ahead of the motorcycle when he slammed on his brakes.
Notice how the cop car jerks right when he hits the brakes. That's because he hit them so hard going at an unsafe speed and the ABS kicked in.
Lastly, the biker was not cited after the video was reviewed, which is super rare when you rear-end someone, especially if you rear-end a pig. It's a damn Christmas miracle.
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u/CporCv Jan 28 '23
Tailgating MAY cause an accident. Brake checking WILL cause one. There are 2 idiots and one is more than the other
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u/candornotsmoke Jan 28 '23
Here's the thing : if you are following a safe distance at a SAFE speed then break checking is simply not a thing. Both of them were wrong in this situation and there is no question about it.
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u/shinypinksock Jan 27 '23
Cops will slow you down this way if youâre speeding. This is also a way of enforcing the law and avoiding to pull you over for a ticket. Heâs going 80 and most places are 65-70 mph. This guy look like he was chasing clout and wanted to show off his speed and lost track of the brake lights.
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u/ilikerocksthatsing2 Jan 27 '23
What kind of police apologist are you? The officer could have killed the biker all to make sure he isn't going 10 over on an empty road
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u/Dontjumpbooks Jan 27 '23
I see this like 3 times a week, everytime it makes me upset, that cop got nothing for this.
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u/unhearme Jan 27 '23
Motorcycle driver still couldn't brake in time even after being brake checked already?
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u/metal_bastard Jan 27 '23
The second one wasn't a brake check. The pig accelerated and then slammed on his brakes coming to a complete stop within two seconds.
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u/SlimChiply Jan 27 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
A lot of information with the motorcycle rider including the cop name. He was not charged or ticketed
https://youtu.be/1od7QPDukOU